| Author |
 Topic  |
|
|
junkmoney1
Expert Fisherman
USA
88 Posts |
 Posted - 07/31/2008 : 09:50:47
|
Hello, I was up last week trying to dig up some Walleye's with not a lot of luck, so I tried the Smallmouth fishing around the shores. I didn't have any luck, but also noticed that there were no other bass boats out either. When does your Smallmouth bite up there take place?
Thanks, Kevin
|
A good man will leave an Inheritance for his children's children,but a sinner's wealth is stored up for the righteous. Proverbs 13:22 |
|
|
DOUBLE EAGLE
Professional Fisherman
USA
1065 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2008 : 19:43:00
|
| In the spring!!! |
 |
|
|
ErieBoy75
Superior Fisherman
115 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2008 : 20:41:26
|
We did OK on them last August, Kevin.
We caught over 80 last week.....oh wait, we were in Canada, that doesn't count here!
I'll post when we get some.
ErieBoy75 |
|
|
|
reo
Superior Fisherman
193 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2008 : 07:25:07
|
Junk
The eye fishing is GREAT right now it just takes a little boat ride. From the bar to avon on the 33 line or further there are large amounts of hungry fish.
On the other hand Ohio bass fishing is very poor as the population has dropped dramatically. I will just say that, IMO, catching smallmouths, dropping them in a "livewell" and then motoring 10-30 miles (through Lake Erie chop) so they can be weighed attempt to feed wallets and/or egos before release (far from home) is not helping this fine game fish recover either.
Flame away boys.
reo |
United We Bargain Divide We Beg
reo |
Edited by - reo on 08/01/2008 07:26:13 |
|
|
|
SEAPRO
Master Fisherman
224 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2008 : 10:48:00
|
reo,
I certainly understand your point but don't necessarily agree with it. The sport of bass fishing has probably lead to more "conservation" in fishing as a whole, then any other type of sport fishing.
Your arguement sounds a little biased(?) - "that it feeds egos and wallets" - the fact is , that it is no different then a walleye tournament and those fish don't survive. I agree the boat rides, in a body of water like Lake Erie and release (far from home) are probably not good for the fish but the survival rate is strong and alot of effort is expended, on making sure of that.
Do I agree that tournaments should be held during the spawn? Absolutely not!! I just don't think that the fishing tournaments themselves, do a whole lot to hurt the population. There are some casualties but the effect of that would probably be minimal.
I am very much a "conservative" fisherman and anyone that knows me, knows that I do not keep fish of any kind. Will I let someone have the fish I catch when I am walleye fishing? Yes, but I personally do not keep any.
To be honest, one of the reasons I took up the sport of bass fishing far greater this year, over other types, is because of the "conservation" of it!! Now that is only one reason - I like it as a whole and feel it takes a greater skill set, then most types of fishing and really enjoy that aspect of it. Not saying that bass fishing is harder then walleye fishing - just that it is for me!
Personally, I would like there to be a "zero limit" on bass but doubt that would ever happen. I am all for, any type of conservation, that leads to better fish populations for the future. I like where you head is at! Just not sure the impact is as great as you may think. I could certainly be wrong and if I was educated otherwise, would act accordingly!! |
Will NOT fish for food !! |
Edited by - SEAPRO on 08/01/2008 10:55:13 |
|
|
|
reo
Superior Fisherman
193 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2008 : 14:25:07
|
Seapro
We agree more than you think. I too have done more bass fishing this year than walleye fishing and would support a zero limit, at least until the population rebounds. I also agree that bass fishing as a whole has led the way on many conservation fronts including the advancement of C+R. The feeding of egos and wallets may have been a little harsh BUT I would have the same feelings as far as walleye tournaments if the population were in a similar situation. Walleye and perch populations(for now)are resiliant enough to withstand considerable harvest. In this regard I think there is a difference.
quote:
I am all for, any type of conservation, that leads to better fish populations for the future. I like where you head is at! Just not sure the impact is as great as you may think.
I also agree that the impact is probably small BUT if you have fished for Lake Erie smallmouths for a number of years you would agree that the populations are scary low, at least they are to me. Sooo any reduction in their numbers at this point is worse than if populations were higher. As for further conservation let me run this by you. In this age of digital technology it would not be difficult OR costly for a system of digital scales and digital cameras (still and or video) along with co-anglers to weigh photo and release tournament fish AT THE SPOT WHERE THEY ARE CAUGHT. the cost would be less than a high end rod and reel. Not much when most guys have several tens of thousands wrapped up in their rigs to begin with. As for the big boys it could even be an avenue for new sponsers, sony, nikkon, olympus etc...
What say you??? |
United We Bargain Divide We Beg
reo |
|
|
|
SEAPRO
Master Fisherman
224 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2008 : 16:03:21
|
Reo,
I think taking pictures is a brilliant idea!!!
I also think you make some very good points about the need for changes until the population rebounds and that the fish be released, at the spot, where they are caught!!!
You are certainly preaching to the choir when it comes to conservation with me!!
Just wasn't sure where you were headed with your first post. AND you did say flame away!    |
Will NOT fish for food !! |
|
|
|
reo
Superior Fisherman
193 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2008 : 17:14:14
|
quote:
Originally posted by SEAPRO
You are certainly preaching to the choir when it comes to conservation with me!!
Just wasn't sure where you were headed with your first post. AND you did say flame away!
Well usually (unlike this one) the discussion is not civil when I bring this topic up, even without a "harsh comment" from me right out of the box Bottom line is I LOVE to catch smallies!!
PS: PM sent |
United We Bargain Divide We Beg
reo |
|
|
|
BigKev
Moderator
USA
1537 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2008 : 23:54:19
|
Junkmoney,
My buddy has had no problem finding plenty of smallies down around Ruggles Reef. Target the rock humps in 19' to 27' FOW. Drop shotting goby style baits has been a good tactic. My buddy told me that not every hump is holding fish but once you find one that has fish stick on it cause there will be dozens of em there. He pulled 70 some last sunday down that way. Don't have any real specific gps numbers for you but with a decent sonar you should have no trouble. Good Luck.
BK |
Go Bucks!!! |
|
|
|
BigKev
Moderator
USA
1537 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2008 : 00:04:06
|
I believe that the ODNR and the State would shut these tournaments down if they really felt they had an impact on the population. Look at how closely they are monitoring the Perch population in the western basin. To modify they limit by 5 fish is keeping a tight reign on them. If it gets bad enough they will regulate what they have to. I truly feel that the gobies and the 03 class walleyes are part of the problem as well. Walleyes will eat anything and with the population being high any smallies that survive the gobies when they are young are being eaten by the walleyes. Also according to Travis Hartman Lake Erie Biologist the LARGE smallmouth population is very good, its the smaller ones that are scarce. Most of this is just my opinion and take it for what its worth. We all know about opinions. LOL.
BK
|
Go Bucks!!! |
|
|
|
bigmtman
Professional Fisherman
USA
1220 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2008 : 03:10:29
|
You would think that with all the millions of $$$$$$$ that ALL sportsman spend every year that each state would put top priority in preserving and protecting our wild life for the good of all
BUT when there are bucks to be made there is no way this state or any other will ever put the sportsmen and the wild life first before they can cash in.Just like the perch limits,cut the limits for the fisherman's but do nothing about the netters and there so called miscounts every year.We all thought that this state finally got some thing right when it was going to have a buy out on a lot-not all perch netters but when they seen the money that the state was going to lose well that stop.The only time they truly start doing any thing is when it is tooo late and then it takes years to recover from it.A good point is this,I live around some real dandy deer hunting areas but believe me the deer herds are decreasing ever year around here just ask any hunter or farmer in this area but for some reason (LETS JUST SAY GREEEED)ever year we have a record deer harvest and then the next year the state can issue people the second or third deer permit for an extra $20 bucks which will earn the state around an extra $200,000.Fishing is alittle better but not much,sorry guys I just have very little faith in any government b.s.
Ohio didn't learn nothing about the zebra muscle so here came the gobbies and so on.The only way to help and to persevere our sports is by the clubs and teaching sportsmanship I mean look what the state and ODNR did with the cormont Black birds (I think that's what there called)They got rid of most of them years ago because they were a problem and now lets see,oh thats right the state and ODNR protected them again so they could come back in full force and kill hundreds of the trees and eat thousands of the small mouth bass.I know the state and the Odnr do some great things but if there is money to be made or lost I truly see them both filling there pockets as our sport suffers from them both.Thats just my 2 cents,now its late I'm headed to bed! |
Thanks Mark Butler - ( Let Christ be your light house ) |
Edited by - bigmtman on 08/02/2008 03:14:18 |
|
|
|
reo
Superior Fisherman
193 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2008 : 17:00:08
|
Part of the problem is that VERY little resources have been put towards learning about smallies by the state when compared to other grat lake states. I have been told this by several people from the state. New York for example has done a bunch more research on erie bass and as a result shut down on possesion during the spawn many years ago, as a result their fishery is much stronger now. So much so that many Ohio guys now travel there for their fix.
Yes the LARGE smallmouth population is strong but recrutment of new younger fish has been very very poor. After a strong hatch or two when even a goof like me can catch double digits in a day and I will probably stop whining |
United We Bargain Divide We Beg
reo |
|
|
| |
Topic |
|
Lorain Fishing
